And for a (perhaps?) less confusing (initially, anyway, as the above might make more sense upon pondering for a bit and/or letting it percolate/simmer/stew/settle/rest/ground) elucidation, it might be worth checking out my (very briefly) original (in some manner of speaking/writing? (as it's not even technically true now a few minutes after this page was initially composed without this last inner nested parenthetical right here)) CHAGR IN page. Though obviously YMMV...